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West Ham (A) - PL - 27 April dinner time

Doubt any of us can be arsed. Fuck it.

Ali

Trent
Quansah
Van dijk
Gomez

Clark
Elliott
Gravy

Diaz
Danns
Gakpo

How good is this team?

I feel like for almost the entirety of this season I've been wondering whether this team is actually good. I was fairly sure it wasn't good enough to win a title, and that has proven true unfortunately, but there's a massive amount of space underneath that threshold, and I'm still uncertain as to how to plot this team.

I suppose that's not that surprising. This team is in the beginning of a long overdue overhaul, and we bought three midfield players, all of whom have done ok to well, but their stories can also point in different directions. Macca for instance is brilliant, but has played most of the season out of position. Endo is great, but is a very good backup, or needs very good backup, as he can't play two games a week. Szobo has obvious talent but has underperformed and is ill disciplined tactically.

Yes, we've fallen apart toward the end of the season, with our performances looking quite leggy, but there's nothing new about us conceding dumb simple chances, nor being able to control a game, that's been the case for much of the season. The only thing that has changed is we have zero air of inevitability, and less energy about us anymore. That's a reversion to the norm.

The other thing that changed was Klopp announcing he is leaving. I don't think it really changed the team that much, perhaps it gave some extra motivation. I think it just made the fans hell bent on the idea that this team needed to win something, and therefore pushed a fanbase that was thinking "hey, this team might be on to something, but there's quite a few glaring issues" on to the realm of "we're going to do it lads." We weren't going to do it. Good teams don't play poorly in every single game for stretches of time, but then gut out results. Good teams don't allow lots of easy chances and rely upon poor finishing. Good teams do take their chances, but when our team was good we had forwards that missed many chances, but our chance creation and oppressive control of the game just ground plenty of teams down.

On the tactical ends, the late Klopp experiments into inverting our right fullback are never going to finish... I still find the attempts just as unpersuasive as I always have. Trent wandering around hitting long balls with low tactical discipline, sitting on top of players who are no slouches for an outlet ball, just isn't fundamentally solid play. It's the sort of thing a mid table does with a single attacking idea they have. It's easily neutralized, and it's fundamentally flawed. Our best overall play happened with kids, but it also happened with us NOT playing this system. We used VVD to hit the outball, or any number of other players who played quite compact in midfield and had far better structure. I've no idea whether we could work a more traditional system in occasionally with Trent, because our best player in that position by a mile, isn't willing/instructed to use the width of the pitch anymore. We still deal with his defensive inattention, but now it's like he's absolved of it. We get LESS attacking output from him.

While we have spent far less time doing what we want to in games of late, we've almost never turned in professional performances for 90 minutes, from the beginning of the season until now. We've gritted our way through, and inevitably our luck has run out, with our finishing.

We're going to talk about how shit our forwards are all summer, I'd imagine, and I'm fine with that, because our old team, the one that was better, had a lot of its flaws masked by the fact that it had some razors up front, with two speedy outlets and one connector. Goals cleanse all sorts of sins. It's worth remembering though, that that team also had two much better fullbacks to use the acres of space those players created. It had a more sound midfield.

I'm much more concerned about what is wrong with this team all around. I know that the mantra is that pressing is the most creative play, but we do need to be able to build up without hitting long balls. We are so vulnerable against such utterly primitive teams, and look like we aren't positionally sound. I can just as easily imagine this team entirely falling apart, as I can it keeping what it has and building on the flaws. That's not doom mongering, it's just that the old guard of this team is on the decline, and now the captain is off. The collective questions around this team are individual ones as well, on many players. A little less belief this season and we get results like the previous season. Which is more reflective? What is the trajectory? I've really no fucking clue.

Alisson Becker and Cláudio Taffarel: A Goalkeeping Masterclass


View: https://twitter.com/Andrew_Heaton/status/1782845171543015792

"Courtesy of Premier League Productions, Liverpool number 1 Alisson Becker sits down with childhood role model and mentor, Cláudio Taffarel, Liverpool's esteemed goalkeeping coach. They delve into the intricacies of what it truly means to be a professional goalkeeper, sharing insights, experiences, and invaluable advice."


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLk6mjDxCSw


View: https://twitter.com/MoSalahBR/status/1782809057151033553

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Dave OCKOP reporting we are interviewing/have interviewed Gary O’Neil for the vacant manager role.

Forest vs PGMOL

Thought it deserved it own thread and discussion seeing as Forest are going for it. They released this today:


View: https://x.com/NFFC/status/1782414798350643229



Howard Webb told Nottingham Forest he would not remove Stuart Attwell from duty at Everton after he was made aware of the VAR's Luton Town allegiance. During an eight-minute conversation with Mark Clattenburg – a consultant to Forest's board - on Friday morning, Webb said he did not know that Attwell was a Luton supporter.
@CraigHope_DM
This is a bit weird as Oliver said in an interview a few years back that the refs are questioned about this. Oliver said he couldnt ref Newcastle games etc. This was probably prior to Webb getting the job though.

Will be interesting to see how PGMOL and Webb handle this. Bet they dont release the audio.

Match Day 29 (part 2) - Other Games April 23rd-25th

Tuesday
Arsenal vs Chelsea

Wednesday
Wolves vs Bournemouth
Palace vs Newcastle
United vs Sheff Utd

Thursday
Brighton vs City

Everton (A) - 24 April 2024 - Premier League

The Big Dog vs the Yard Dogs.

I fucking hate these. I fucking hate the 3 shite spastic clubs that came up which ensured they are staying up. These pricks deserve to go down to the abyss.

We got the big 3 points against Fulham. Klopp finally showed he had a pair and rotated the side to save some legs going into this run of away league fixtures.

Firstly, Gravy and The Boy got better as the game went on today, but neither are gonna start at the dump. We may not even start with the ninja.

Ali

Trent
Big Ib
VVD
Robbo

Big Mac
SoPleaseBeBoss
Ketwig

Diaz
Jota
Gakpo

Mo and Donkey didn’t do anything to be worthy of a start.

We need to keep the pressure on. LET’S FUCKING SMASH THESE CUNTS.
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