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Will Argentina fail to qualify for the World Cup ?

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Frogfish, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    On the cusp of failing to qualify for the World Cup after drawing 0-0 at home to Peru yesterday.

    WTF ?!

    How can a team with Messi, Dybala, Aguero, Di Maria, Higuain and Icardi on your team score only 16 goals in 17 games (Brendan's take on CFs / goal scorers will be interesting here).

    Table and permutations for qualification (or failure) here :

    http://www.skysports.com/football/n...rgentina-have-one-game-to-save-their-campaign

    Whilst it would be hilarious to see them fail I'd much prefer to see Messi & co at the WC, which would be greatly devalued without them.
     
  2. LarryHagman

    LarryHagman Well-Known Member

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    I hope so, I hate the cunts.
     
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  3. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    You may get your wish. Their last match is away at oxygen deprived Ecuador (Quito) who are currently just 5 pts behind them (though out of the running for a WC slot).
     
  4. LarryHagman

    LarryHagman Well-Known Member

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    Argentina and Portugal not qualifying would be great news for Ingerland. How are Iceland getting on?
     
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    gkmacca Part of the Furniture Member

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    I don't think it would be devalued at all. If these players aren't shining in these qualifying games, they're unlikely to shine in the finals should they squeak through. If they're ineffectual now, they'll be ineffectual then. They're not in a good team. England are already there, so the football world doesn't need any more teams to stink the place out.
     
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  6. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Of course, what was I thinking.  Regardless of what Argentina, as a team, do or do not do, a WC without Messi wouldn't be devalued at all.
     
  7. LarryHagman

    LarryHagman Well-Known Member

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    Has he done anything of note in his previous WCs?  Genuine question, I can't remember.
     
  8. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Neither can I but regardless he's the best player in the world, why on earth would any lover of good football not want him there ?
     
  9. LarryHagman

    LarryHagman Well-Known Member

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    Well if you can't remember what he's brought to the table before, and they're shit now, you won't be missing anything.
     
  10. jason

    jason ΛΩΔ Member

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    Real ity hurts I dont like it.
     
  11. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Mate. With my memory I can't remember shit that happened 5 mins ago never mind 4 years !
     
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    darkstarexodus Well-Known Member

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    ....in a negative 4-G turn....
    Argentina haven't won in Quito since 1960 I've just read. Not sure how many games played but presumably at least once in each qualifying cycle.
     
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    Wouldn't think so - for that to happen they'd have to have been drawn against Ecuador every single time.

    Even so, it's a surprising stat right enough.
     
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    Well - there are 10 teams in South America, and they play each other home and away.  It has been that way for at least 6 world cups - only exception being 9 teams playing each other when world  cup hosted in South America.  So Argentina have played several times in Ecuador since 1960
     
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    StevieM SCM's resident Beer Nazi, Wine Snob & Comic Geek Forum Moderator

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    Watch FIFA hastily reconfigure the playoffs to ensure Messi & Co are at the World Cup, if they don't qualify through the South American Group.
     
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    Just looked this up, and, while close, this does not appear true.  Argentina won 2-0 in Quito in WC qualifying August 2001.  Other than that - 4 wins for Ecuador and 5 draws in Quito since 1960.
     
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    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    He won player of the tournament I recall

    To which everyone thought was a fucking joke, and devalued the trophy, because he was mostly shite

    So, tbf, I kind of see your point, and on a large agree with it

    Same as Gerrard, Messi rarely (if ever) transfers club ability to national level.

    Too many egos to let talent shine
     
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    Argentina are annoyingly poor - they have so many good attackers.

    Should've won the World Cup a few years back too.
     
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    It's like saying the World Cup missed Rush because Wales never qualified, but he was in a shit team and wouldn't have got any service, let alone a chance to make a mark on the tournament. Look at Kenny, Souness and Hansen - they did make it but hardly captured the imagination because Scotland were shite. If Argentina somehow contrive to get there, it won't be the Messi of Barcelona, it'll be the frustrated little beardy bloke who bombs out after three poor games.
     
  20. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    He scored a last minute winner in the group stage in Brazil although contrary to Popular belief he's stats for the tournament were worthy of winning player of the tournament.

    I hope they get there. Just because they struggled to qualified doesn't mean they won't light up the World Cup or that they can't win it.

    They were so close in 2014.
     
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