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Sterling Deal Complete: 49 million (44 + 5)

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Its a pity the way this has played out, I think Sterling is excellent and I wouldn't read too much into the end of his season.

but if we come.out if it with Sterling gone but get Firmino and Clyne and still have 10m to spend then it's hard to say we haven't made ourselves better
 
but if we come.out if it with Sterling gone but get Firmino and Clyne and still have 10m to spend then it's hard to say we haven't made ourselves better

And that Irrespectively guy from Madrid. If we get him as well, I'd be fairly happy with that.

Sterling is a big loss for us, though.
 
Wonder if the Firmino and Clyne deals are dependent on Sterling leaving.

I think it's a case of we have transfers lined up with and without Sterling staying, so we're waiting on City's ideal bid before we go through with deals in order or priority. I think Clyne and Firmino are probably the big targets, but the demands of their respective clubs and whether we bow down to them, could be something we have to consider as dependent on Sterling's move going through.
 
Hopefully we have Firmino and Clyne as our main targets and if the deal for Sterling goes through, the we can go for Kovacic and the guy from Madrid.
 
Unless it's £50m or even more, it's a bad sign from us. As has been said, it was witless in the extreme to let it be known we might consider a certain figure, because unless we then get it we'll look like we've backed down. It should be £50m or no deal. It shouldn't be that difficult. 'Don't keep coming back with lower bids. You know the figure'. That should have been the message at the start.
 
We've just got to hold our nerve Macca, I'm sure we both know the score, they know what we want, but like any club they're trying it on in the hope we get twitchy about it and give in. Luckily (I guess) we have time on our side in the window to hold out for an acceptable figure
 
Yes, although someone with more authority and nous than Ayre would have dictated how this developed from the start. Ayre is the type to put a figure out there and allow a saga to develop, and then slowly get confused over what's happening as the discussions drag on. It needed someone to start clearly and firmly, then basically shut up. He's all over the place.
 
I think it's a case of we have transfers lined up with and without Sterling staying, so we're waiting on City's ideal bid before we go through with deals in order or priority. I think Clyne and Firmino are probably the big targets, but the demands of their respective clubs and whether we bow down to them, could be something we have to consider as dependent on Sterling's move going through.


Ideally we should have enough money to get both Clyne and Firmino without selling Sterling.

What this mess of a transfer has done is to make our targets' clubs know that we have potentially up to 50m to spend.
 
£50 million or tell them to sod off.

However we probably wont, as sterling will be funding our summer activity.

Fsg master plan.
 
How many clubs do though, publicly? I'm not defending Ayre, but we don't know what's been said between clubs, and I can't remember the last time a club came out over a big transfer and said, "we want X amount".
 
And we're doing this at a time when we're about to land a top 10 in the world transfer fee for a player who has just a chance of being a top 10 in the world type?
 
How many clubs do though, publicly? I'm not defending Ayre, but we don't know what's been said between clubs, and I can't remember the last time a club came out over a big transfer and said, "we want X amount".



Nothing's been said publicly. Ayre did his usual off the record briefing to his favoured coterie of hacks, and left them to run with it. He thinks it's clever. You should either do it the old Peter Robinson way and not say anything at all, or you should make sure what you say to your mates in the media is much less pliable in terms of interpretation.
 
For us to walk away with 40mill from the Sterling deal, aren't we looking at needing a cash bid of 50mill with no addons? I can't see that happening.
I'd have thought they might come in with something in the low 40's with the rest scraping upto roundabouts 50mill if he wins world player of the year or something.

I can see us ending up with more like 30-35 for our bit, which I think we could/should be doing better but I guess our hands are tied because of qpr.
 
Nothing's been said publicly. Ayre did his usual off the record briefing to his favoured coterie of hacks, and left them to run with it. He thinks it's clever. You should either do it the old Peter Robinson way and not say anything at all, or you should make sure what you say to your mates in the media is much less pliable in terms of interpretation.

In every big transfer saga the media will drop a ceiling figure in which is usually there or there abouts, it's not hard, most fans would have told you from the off what was acceptable for Sterling when this all kicked off. I don't know what's gone on behind the scenes, but it appears fairly common practice for the media to put a fee out there, either through manipulation by the respective clubs, or sheer conjecture.

If we get £50m it's good *business*, I'd argue the toss more over whether we should be selling him in the first place.
 
And we're doing this at a time when we're about to land a top 10 in the world transfer fee for a player who has just a chance of being a top 10 in the world type?


I don't know whether Ayre is good or not but I'm finding it hard to be positive about losing a player like Sterling.

This is not unlike Everton losing Rooney.
 
I don't know whether Ayre is good or not but I'm finding it hard to be positive about losing a player like Sterling.

This is not unlike Everton losing Rooney.

It's not really. Sterling is 'homegrown' but he's not really homegrown.

But I agree, there is very little to be positive about when it comes to his sale.
 
I don't know whether Ayre is good or not but I'm finding it hard to be positive about losing a player like Sterling.

This is not unlike Everton losing Rooney.

I don't think Sterling is on the same level as Rooney - talent wise it's close but I don't think Sterling will have the longevity that Rooney has had.

Sterling has put us in an awkward spot, we can either gamble on him being good if we keep him or make the best of it by using the money wisely. No sense in crying over spilt milk
 
Yeh, losing Sterling to an English rival can't be a good thing, it's one thing when we're selling Suarez abroad to Barca, but Sterling to City, it hurts, not because I'm going to overly miss Sterling, but because of the precedent it sets. We should be telling City its £50million and you deal with QPR, yeh it's much more than he's worth, but they aren't compensating us just for the loss of the player.
 
It's not Man City's fault that we have to pay compensation on the little twat, and lets face it... there isn't anyone else in the world stupid enough to offer anywhere near 50m than the backward inbred oligarch hand-chopper-offers who own that cunt of a club up the road.
 
In every big transfer saga the media will drop a ceiling figure in which is usually there or there abouts, it's not hard, most fans would have told you from the off what was acceptable for Sterling when this all kicked off. I don't know what's gone on behind the scenes, but it appears fairly common practice for the media to put a fee out there, either through manipulation by the respective clubs, or sheer conjecture.

If we get £50m it's good *business*, I'd argue the toss more over whether we should be selling him in the first place.


Yes, but there's a big difference, for example, between saying 'It'll have to be more like £50m' and saying 'We won't accept less than £50m'. If someone doesn't realise what will happen to the former then he's an idiot. After the club put out an official (and supposedly definitive) statement ruling out a sale AT ALL this summer, you don't then muddy the waters with an ill-conceived briefing. He's a sloppy thinker. Always has been, always will be.
 
So you essentially think we could get more for Sterling Macca and we've fucked up by saying we want 50m?
 
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