Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by Dee, Dec 28, 2017.
Time to put your money where your mouth is. Feel free to expand on your selection
FWIW I voted Yes. We haven't had a commanding CB since Hyppia and without one you don't win anything without getting lucky. You pay for what you get and Top CBs are as precious, and rare, as Harry Kanes.
I voted yes but I would also like to see if spending 75m impacts our spending in other areas.
Sorry but this thread serves no purpose other than repetitive meaningless discussion.
All of us will be waiting with baited breath when VVD makes his debut for us. Then you'll see the 'I told you so' threads popping up all over this place.
I guess what I'm saying is time will tell.
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£75mill is a lot of money, but that’s the market we are in currently.
He fills a need in the team, one we have missed since Hyypia/Carra, he’s a leader, he’s a unit, he’s a top class defender.
Whenever you think about the price and think, shit! that’s a lot of money, just remember John Stones cost £50mill and VVD is x10 the player he is.
No problem wth it IF he does the business.It's taken way too long to get this position sorted though.As other posters have said we have been waiting since Sami hung up his boots for a commanding CB who can win the aerial battles and then confidently stride out withe ball.Hopefully Van will be the man to solve this position for the next 5 years.
Who is genuinely arsed about the fee, it's already been agreed, and it's not your money.
If we had unlimited funds, nobody would. But we don’t.
I don't care because it's not like we would land any of our other top targets if we scrimped on VVD
We spent £40m on AOC, which most people balked at, same with the £25m on Lallana. People forget if the performances start coming, so the fee is fairly irrelevant. He'll be a success or he won't, people will use the fee to bury him if he fails, but the money is neither here nor there - if he's a success no one will give a fuck about how much he cost, apart from a few inevitable fan agenda's that will use it as some tool to measure his pound for pound value for money.
We were lambasted for not spending with the big boys, but in the last 6 months we've spent £200m on Kieta, Salah, AOC and VVD, so now we're overspending. Is the team better? We've improved from the addition of two of those, so if Kieta and VVD lift us further, it's money well spent.
The flip side is we've got three of our longterm players in Robertson, Gomez and Trent Alexander Arnold for next to fuck all. I've always maintained that as a club we needed to not just spend big, but to spend well at the lower end of the market, where your scouts really earn their crust. We've done both of late, so it would be ridiculous to complain.
"People will forget about the money that has been spent in a year or twos time if they can win trophies and get that defence right."
Excellent post Mark.
On current form Salah is worth £150m and we didn't pay £40m for him, swings and rounds eh. My biggest concern now would be him getting up to speed quickly enough to start making a difference to us this season.
I think the idea with bringing him in now, apart from obvious interest from City, is with a view to next season. We'll try and get him going this season because there's alot to play for, but it now means he can hit the ground running next season. There was a danger he would rot for the rest of the season at Southampton and then his fitness etc would have been a huge concern.
I guess I should have added I really hope we do pay £75m for him as that means all the inevitable clauses regarding EPL and CL will have been met
Positive is that he can be added to CL squad.
You can say that with every signing though. Speculate to accumulate is THE biggest factor in success in this game, but the room for success is tiny. If he plays for us for he next few years and we remain within the mix and repeatedly in the Champions League, then he's also a success, because he's helped us remain relevant and a force domestically and in Europe. Torres won nothing with us, but he was arguably one of our most successful signings in terms of the team we became with him as the catalyst, same with Suarez. "Success" is relative.
The fee is irrelevant. No point in sitting with the funds like the Gooners then complaining how the Gaffer failed to address weaknesses in the team. Fat bank balance and thin in quality in the squad makes no sense.
He may well be lacking match fitness but he will turn out to be exactly what we need, that dominant, commanding centre half we desperately need. His arrival should signal the end for Lovren which is a bonus in itself.
He didnt deliver for S'oton this season because his head was turned and his heart was at Anfield. You'll see a significant contribution with him in a Liverpool shirt. I'm excited by this transfer. Not only does it address a key area of weakness, but it shows ambition on the clubs part and shows that FSG mean business.
Next is a keeper to give us a real crack at the CL.
Success is winning things you Hodgson-esque fucker