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Six Nations 2018

Rosco

Worse than Brendan
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Can't say i've been watching a lot of rugby lately but i'm looking forward to sitting in my arse and watching a lot of this at the weekend.

Preview by the Guardian:
England
Bidding for a third successive title, they are the team to beat having lost only once in 23 Tests under Eddie Jones. They often relied on their bench last season to compensate for slow starts, winning last year for the most part without being imperious. Injuries and suspensions have disrupted them again and, while they have the greatest strength in depth of any side in the tournament, Jones has yet to see the leadership qualities in his youngest recruits that would make him consider moving on such as Dylan Hartley and Mike Brown. England thrive on quick ball but they continue to be cursed by the absence of their gainline breaker, Billy Vunipola and there were times in 2017, even against Samoa, when they were slow to react when a plan unravelled. This is the year, with New Zealand at Twickenham in November, when England need to move beyond the merely good and it should be Jones’s toughest Six Nations with Scotland resurgent at Murrayfield and France at least talking a good game again.


Ireland
Ireland’s academy system, especially Leinster’s, continues to mine players, but their head coach, Joe Schmidt, is not one to be turned by one or two performances. He believes in the tried and proven and does not regard the Six Nations as a laboratory. He will rely on experience in the opening game against France in Paris, almost venturing into the unknown with Les Bleus changing coaches between World Cups for the first time. If Ireland are to overhaul England, they will need to improve their recent away record with their only win in the last two tournaments coming in Rome. They have not won at Twickenham, where they finish their campaign with a potential title decider against the champions, since 2010. While Scotland live off their wits, England are becoming more adept in broken play and Wales are looking to cultivate the Scarlets’ open style, Ireland’s system is more rigid, based on territory and possession. They throttle opponents and in Jonathan Sexton and Conor Murray have the game’s leading pair of half-backs, but the reins may need to be loosened on the road with referees under orders to let games flow.

Wales
All the teams have injury problems but Wales have been hit the hardest with six of their Lions in New Zealand missing at least the start of the tournament, including the half-backs. Warren Gatland has called on 10 Scarlets for the opening match against Scotland but it will not be a trip back to the 1990s when Wales twice summoned the coaches of the most successful club at the time only to find that Test rugby was something else entirely. The familiarity in key areas, half-back, midfield and front row, will partly offset the impact of so many enforced changes – only six of this weekend’s lineup started in the final match of last year’s Six Nations. Wales will not be gung-ho against opponents who thrive on chaos, no more than the Scarlets were against Toulon when they qualified for the last eight of the Champions Cup. With a Frenchman refereeing, they will look to exploit their expected advantage up front, with Scotland missing eight front-rows, and wear them down. With trips to Twickenham – Wales have not beaten England in the Six Nations since 2013 – and Ireland to follow, the first game is all about winning, not thrilling.


Scotland
The last champions of the Five Nations in 1999 have never been more fancied since having developed a rousing style of play that camouflages a lack of grunt. They will have a patched-up front five in Cardiff and will not want the game to get bogged down by set pieces. For all their improvement last year – a 100% home record in the Six Nations, a double over Australia and a narrow defeat by the All Blacks – they conceded 60 points at Twickenham and lost to Fiji. Saturday will be Gregor Townsend’s first real test since taking over from Vern Cotter: there is a swirl of expectation around Scotland but they have not won an opening Six Nations match away from Murrayfield in nine attempts (they have done so only twice at home) and their overall record on the road is dire – six wins in 45 matches, four in Rome. History weighs against them but, with five Glasgow players in their back division, they will run for the future. Victory in Cardiff would set them up.

France
Les Bleus have had the blues for too long. If the lugubrious features of their new head coach, Jacques Brunel, at the Six Nations launch did not suggest a return to joie de vivre, there is normally an uplift in effort when there is a change at the top. France need more than toil and sweat but one Six Nations record that has survived their slump this decade is that they have never lost their opening match at home. Their home record in the championship under Guy Novès was not as shabby as it had been in the four preceding years, one defeat in five, but the victories were all by slender margins with France not looking the fittest. Brunel has invested in youth to erase the past but the power supply will remain turned on. This French revolution looks like being a slow burner.

Italy
If Conor O’Shea could bottle his verve and enthusiasm and decant it to his players before matches, Italy would be defending the title. Scotland’s rise has left them exposed at the bottom but there are stirrings at club level where Treviso and Zebre have made strides this season and in Italy’s Under-20s. O’Shea points to a number of young players breaking through, especially in the back row, but for this campaign they will remain reliant on Sergio Parisse, their warrior captain. Expect a few tactical surprises but no side is more reliant on its coaches than Italy, who struggle to cope with the unexpected. At least now they are looking up not just because they are below the rest.
 
I'm looking forward to it. Generally I don't watch a lot of rugby, but I do enjoy the internationals. Plus it gives me an excuse to meet a few fellows in the Joyce and have a few pints...
 
If Scotland can win their first match in Wales I guess they'll win the tournament. Otherwise it's going to be England.
 
Don't know if England-v-Ireland on the final day will itself be the decider, but I do think whichever of those two teams finishes higher will win the tournament.
 
I don't think we'll be needing to beat England for a grand slam but otherwise it might be.

England are rightly the favourites but there may not be a huge difference between most teams. Gameplans and selections will be super important
 
England team to face Italy:

Brown; Watson, Te'o, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Launchbury, Itoje, Lawes, Robshaw, Simmonds.

Replacements: George, Hepburn, Williams, Kruis, Underhill, Care, Joseph, Nowell


That's a dangerous back line
 
I don't think that tells the whole story for Ireland- after all, who else sees the 6 nations as 'a laboratory'? Shmidt did a lot of experimenting in the Autumn Internationals (which is the place for it), and discovered a few new potent weapons in Aki and Stockdale. The squad as a whole has quite a few new players in it. I do think Kearney is getting past it at 15.

Rosco, who do you see coming through to take the position?
 


It always worries me when people are tipping Ireland. We never seem to carry the favourite tag well.


Six Nations 2018: 'It will come down to England v Ireland on final Saturday'


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Ireland and Lions great Paul O'Connell makes his BBC Sport website bow this year, joining fellow BBC pundits Jeremy Guscott, Jonathan Davies and Andy Nicol in casting his eye over the 2018 Six Nations.
Between them they see only two sides as contenders to win the tournament - although they all agree who's going to finish bottom.
There's also wide agreement on both the player from the opposition they'd most like to have in their team, and who the most exciting youngster is.
How do you expect your team to get on?

JG: England haven't been at their best in the last 12 months, and further disruption with injuries won't have helped.
But winning becomes a habit no matter who is in the team and they face Italy, the weakest side, to start so can ease themselves into the tournament. I suspect Scotland and Ireland will be their toughest challengers.
JD: Wales losing six of their best players - Rhys Webb, Liam Williams (for the first game), Jonathan Davies, Dan Biggar, Sam Warburton and Taulupe Faletau - will have an effect. That's over a third of your starting XV.
However, Wales are looking to change their style of play so this could be a great opportunity - the likes of Rhys Patchell, Josh Adams and Steff Evans have to come in and impress.
POC: I think Ireland will win.
AN: I am very hopeful of a good Six Nations for Scotland, after such a promising autumn, which culminated in scoring 50 points against Australia.
The key is the first game in Cardiff and if we can win that, it will set us up nicely with two home games to follow.
Who do you think will be your nation's key player?

JG: Fly-half George Ford is the key to England's attacking game. It's been far too long since he's consistently threatened the gainline with his running game - his influence has been more as a distributor in the deep rather than a threat making breaks.
If he can rediscover that side of his game, England will be an attacking threat in the backs, which would make a pleasant change.
JD: Patchell, and his half-back partnership with fellow Scarlet Gareth Davies, is going to be key.

The Scarlets fly-half is an intelligent player, who is playing well in a confident side. The front five is solid so it's going to be a case of how well Patchell can manage the game and implement the new gameplan.
POC: Johnny Sexton will be Ireland's key player. The out-half will be key on every team but no other out-half in the competition has his experience.
He is obviously a fantastic player but also a great leader and on-field coach.
AN: Every successful team needs a stand-off who controls the game and can produce moments of magic, and Finn Russell is that man for Scotland.
He plays with such positivity and loves to play with real tempo, which brings out the best in the other players.

Which Six Nations player from another team would you pick if you could?

JG: Scotland full-back Stuart Hogg would add another dimension to England's attack. He has speed and a great step, and can pop up anywhere in the attacking line and have a go at defenders - he's a real threat.
The attacking full-back is iconic and we need to see more of them. If Anthony Watson played 15 for England it would be good news for their attack.
JD: Hogg. With the way Wales are trying to play, I think the Scotland full-back would have a huge influence.
England's Owen Farrell would be brilliant at 12 but with Wales trying to now put the ball through the hands, Hogg would be a great addition to the side.
POC: I don't know where I would put him but I'd take Farrell. Coaches can sleep well when they have players like the England man in their team, someone who drives his side continuously to higher standards.
AN: Tadhg Furlong from Ireland. With injuries to just about every prop in Scotland, but especially WP Nel, I would take the world class Ireland tight-head to lock out the scrum and give Scotland a guaranteed platform to play from.
Which youngster do you expect to make a name for himself?

Leinster's uncapped Jordan Larmour is getting the pundits very excited after some sparkling displays this season
JG: If Jordan Larmour gets a run for Ireland he's definitely one to watch. The 20-year-old Leinster full-back/wing has quick footwork with decent acceleration.
If he doesn't make it, Ulster's Jacob Stockdale will catch the eye. The 6ft 3in, 16st Ireland winger appears to be a natural, try-scoring predator.
JD: I'm looking forward to seeing Larmour on the Test stage. He's a really exciting prospect.
POC: Larmour. I think Ireland will be careful with him and put him in at the right time. He has scored some sensational solo tries this season and is profiting from working with some great players and coaches at Leinster.
AN: If Bath number eight Zach Mercer or fellow 20-year-old Larmour get a run for England and Ireland respectively, they could make a name for themselves.
What is the biggest obstacle to your team's success this year?

JG: The loss of Billy Vunipola is the biggest issue for England - he carries so well and is their best attacking player.
A very close second is the quality, or otherwise, of the attack from England's backline. Which player in the England three-quarter line has consistently been an attacking threat, making breaks and making or scoring tries? The backline hasn't found its balance.
JD: Wales' injuries are going to be significant, as is the comparative lack of strength in depth.
England go on about their injuries but they have great strength in depth and injuries do affect the other nations a bit more.
POC: Ireland's biggest issue is that in a season when we have form and such depth, we have France away in the first game and England away in the last game. England at Twickenham will not be easy and recently our record at Twickenham isn't great.
AN: Injuries to the front row could really hamper Scotland's ability to guarantee possession. They have no real strength in depth at stand-off either, so Russell needs to play all five games.


Who will win the title and why?

JG: For me Ireland are the most complete team. They have experienced players, new talent coming through, the scrum and line-out are solid, the breakdown pretty precise.
They are a side that has a low penalty count and work hard to keep unforced errors to a minimum, which compounds the pressure they apply to teams.
Their gameplan is embedded, well structured and executed, and they have the best half-back combination in the tournament in Sexton and Conor Murray, who are rugby smart and perform to the highest standards most of the time.
JD: If Ireland win their first game they will have a great opportunity because of their three home games, but I think it might come down to the last game - England v Ireland at Twickenham.
POC: Ireland, for a number of reasons. The depth of the squad has never been so good, so I think they will be able to handle the injuries that will come during the tournament.
Defence coach Andy Farrell has been a great appointment to a coaching staff that was already top class.
AN: I think England will just shade it from Ireland but with no Grand Slam, so bonus points become very important indeed.
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I don't think that tells the whole story for Ireland- after all, who else sees the 6 nations as 'a laboratory'? Shmidt did a lot of experimenting in the Autumn Internationals (which is the place for it), and discovered a few new potent weapons in Aki and Stockdale. The squad as a whole has quite a few new players in it. I do think Kearney is getting past it at 15.

Rosco, who do you see coming through to take the position?

I think Kearney has been past his best for a while and he's now more Girvan Dempsey like.

Carberry is probably the most likely to take time from Kearney during this 6 Nations.

I thought Zebo had a great chance of taking the 15 because the gap between himself and Kearney in relation to ability under a high ball and kicking had narrowed significantly. And Zebo is a much more lively threat with ball in hand.

I've always thought Tiernan O'Halloran would make the jump to international standard, admittedly i haven't seen him play for a while so maybe he's not far off.

But he seems to have been overtaken by Larmour - who i've seen nothing of
 
I think Kearney has been past his best for a while and he's now more Girvan Dempsey like.

Carberry is probably the most likely to take time from Kearney during this 6 Nations.

I thought Zebo had a great chance of taking the 15 because the gap between himself and Kearney in relation to ability under a high ball and kicking had narrowed significantly. And Zebo is a much more lively threat with ball in hand.

I've always thought Tiernan O'Halloran would make the jump to international standard, admittedly i haven't seen him play for a while so maybe he's not far off.

But he seems to have been overtaken by Larmour - who i've seen nothing of
Yeah, I'm hearing there's a big buzz about Larmour too. I saw enough when he took the piss out of Ulster for Leinster:

 
Same here. Most pundits that I've come across have been touting Scotland to finish the higher of those two and possibly even be dark horses for the whole thing, but that looks to have gone up in smoke with this result.
 
Same here. Most pundits that I've come across have been touting Scotland to finish the higher of those two and possibly even be dark horses for the whole thing, but that looks to have gone up in smoke with this result.

Yes, I‘m going to wind my neck in...
 
Thats the good and the bad of Schmidt's approach to rugby in view today. We controlled possession and territory for the most part but one mistake left us behind.

30+ phases and a drop goal in the 82nd minute .... fuck me that was nervy. I shit myself when Sexton threw a crossfield chip into the mix.
 
Scotland should have been taking notes on that passage of play. They tried to force the play repeatedly with high risk passes and off loads and surrendered possession time and again. They barely linked any phases of play together at all. It was dreadful rugby.
 
Yes, I‘m going to wind my neck in...

You were far from being the only one, Bernd, and BTW they're still capable of coming up with a big performance somewhere along the line and putting the skids under anybody. That's the kind of side they are and have been for years.
 
Dreading the England game, we're going to get a kicking.

It's been forced on Gatlandto a certain degree but still good to see that he's showing more faith in a number of the talented youngsters we've got coming through. Hopefully we stick with them throughout the tournament

I'll be satisfied if he can develop a bigger squad this six nations at the expense of any shot at this years title.
 
All right mate, how yer diddlin'?

On the subject of youngsters, watch out for Josh Adams on the wing. He's managed to become one of the most dangerous strike runners in the Prem already despite playing in a team which is often in reverse gear.
 
Not bad thanks for asking mate! Trust all is well with you?

I watched him with interest on Saturday as i'd read quite a bit about him prior to the game. Looks quite the player on first glance. I gather he's the top scorer in the prem at present.
 
Yeah, getting by, relieved to have gotten over my dose of the flu/lurgy which has swept the country this winter.

Given the way you lot shafted the Jockoes I don't think anybody will regard a win over you as a foregone conclusion.
 
Ireland team v Italy: Rob Kearney; Keith Earls, Robbie Henshaw, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray; Jack McGrath, Rory Best (captain), Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Devin Toner, Peter O’Mahony, Dan Leavy, Jack Conan.

Replacements: Cian Healy, Sean Cronin, Andrew Porter, Quinn Roux, CJ Stander, Kieran Marmion, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.
 
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