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Jonathan Wilson saw the game the same way as I did. I enjoyed our performance, but as a fan of the game I’m almost insulted by the shit PSG served up in the 2nd half.
A net €750m spent in eight years and that’s all you get? Success without money is all but impossible in the modern game, but wealth brings no guarantees. Football still has the capacity to make the richest of men seem very foolish if they pursue glamour at the expense of substance – a heartening moral, so long as you don’t think too closely about the source of the wealth that is paying for Neymar to squander his immense talents in an entitled fug of self-indulgence.

For Paris Saint-Germain, there has been no development. The lessons of last season have not been learned. All the flaws that undid PSG against Real Madrid in last season’s last 16 were there again at Anfield on Tuesday. Leaving three forwards high up the pitch to float about and occasionally pull off a trick may be enough in Ligue 1 – given PSG have begun the season with five successive wins and have scored at least three goals in every game, it demonstrably is – but it is no way to play against proper opposition. The Air Jordan branding may be intended to add an extra shot of glamour, but in context it appears to say little more than: “Please nutmeg me while I appeal half-heartedly for offside.”

There is an irony to this, of course, that PSG’s domination of the French league is precisely what prevents them being truly competitive in Europe. This is the great paradox of the financial structures of the modern game and it is one of the factors that will probably lead, sooner rather than later, to some sort of pan-national super-league. When there is no challenge, it’s only natural complacency sets in. When there are no predators at home, why would you flee the red-faced men with sticks and guns? When there is no peril in your league, why would you bother to track Trent Alexander-Arnold?
Is Thomas Tuchel happy with this? This, after all, is a man who grew up in the hard-pressing world of the Bundesliga. He was regarded as the new Jürgen Klopp, a manager forged at a similar school. He is somebody who dined with Pep Guardiola after his Dortmund side had lost 5-1 against Bayern, whose love of the theory of juego de posición outweighed the sting of defeat. There can be no version of that conception of the game that features three men standing 50 yards upfield from their midfield, barely raising a jog as a defender surges past them again. PSG football is not Tuchel football; it may not even be football.

Questions were asked as to why Gareth Southgate had opted to go and watch Mason Mount play for Derby against Blackburn in the Championship rather than seeing Alexander-Arnold take on Neymar, or Jordan Henderson look to impose himself against the grandees of France, but he probably made the right choice. This was no more a gauge of their talents than Einstein doing his times tables would have been of his.
In the end, perhaps it was too easy. The second half became a stroll, despite Thomas Meunier halving Liverpool’s lead five minutes before half-time, hooking in a loose ball in the box. Almost 40 minutes of it had passed and PSG not only hadn’t had a shot, they had managed only eight passes in the 30 yards closest to Liverpool’s goal. The game had taken on a weird aspect, as Liverpool, charged for an epic, found it a stroll and found their own focus slipped as a consequence. A lax pass from Mohamed Salah, a quick turnover and Neymar had laid in Kylian Mbappé to equalise. Indulged they may be, but they are still good players. Give them a chance and they will still take it, just as the most decadent of the late Romans would still eat a grape so long as you peeled it first and popped it in their mouths.

But most damning of all was what followed. PSG had been gifted a point. They had got away with one of the most disgracefully negligent performances a club of their resources has ever put on. They could go back to Paris and fuel their self-regard with a useful away point. All they had to do was compete for the final seven minutes plus injury time. But they could not.

Liverpool, to their immense credit, were able to re-engage. And when placed under pressure again, PSG’s swagger became a whimper. Look at Roberto Firmino’s winner and count how many PSG players have turned away rather than attempt a block: these are basics of defending, of professional self-respect, and they cannot do them.

Each season the question seems to become more fundamental: what are PSG? A vanity project for Neymar? A strangely misplaced Nike marketing ploy? A laundromat for Qatar’s international reputation? They’re certainly not a football club in any traditional sense. And if they are supposed to be an agent of Qatari soft power, they really need to start emphasising the power aspect of that phrase rather than the soft.
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You cant raise your game after playing with that shite every week. It's like getting blown every day in a brothel and then being surprised you can't pull a bird in Popworld.
 
rurikbird said:
Jonathan Wilson saw the game the same way as I did. I enjoyed our performance, but as a fan of the game I’m almost insulted by the shit PSG served up in the 2nd half.
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This sums up the way I still feel after that game. The victory of our team almost feels hollow to me because of the utter disgraceful performance of the opposition. You are spot on as it really does feel insulting - it's like the game never happened in my mind coz they did not turn up. Bunch of cocks the lot of them.
 
gene hughes said:
I love it. We can’t moan about ourselves so we’ve actually started to moan about how poorly the opposition performs. We’re now at peak SCM people. Suck it up.
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You’re right, that IS the best thing to moan about. That and the lack of shelf space in the trophy room.
 
Woland said:
Yeah I wish we would have got fucked sideways. So disappointing to dominate the favourites in our CL group. I think I'll have to start watching Everton if we don't get twatted on Saturday
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gene hughes said:
I love it. We can’t moan about ourselves so we’ve actually started to moan about how poorly the opposition performs. We’re now at peak SCM people. Suck it up.
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*gets morning coffee and enjoys a good old laugh on 6CM to start the day off well*
 
After watching the game again, I feel I could start a few threads like RedNinja ("we need to talk about ..."), so I'll just do it here:

* Robbo ... bar one place where he was skinned, he was incredible. It's been a long time since we've had such an impressive Scot - and he's humble, works his behind off and his crossing is top fucking notch. 8 million? 8 fucking million? #ThankYouHull

* VvD & Gomez faced their toughest challenge. Bar 2-3 small mistakes, they were fine and held up. Sorry Lovren, but going to jail is probably your best chance to get play regularly.

* Milner - I'm absolutely mind boggled by how well he's playing. The passing, the work rate and that fucking tackle on that little pussy. He's incredible. Every game he's playing at a level and driving players with him. I think he knows we're close to something ...

* Gini & Hendo - I mean, what can you say? Hendo is going to be an active part of our MF rotation - he's earned it on merit, not the armband. Gini has taken his game to another level, no world cup and a "we're buying more MFers" challenge ... WHat a great headache for Klopp to have.

* This team is going places ... you can feel we're on the cusp of something. Obviously, that may mean nothing but you have everything to have a top top team - goalie, solid back line, strong deep midfield, a solid bench and plenty of match winners (we have 5, potentially 6 now). It's taken 3 years, but Klopp has built quite a team ... time to kick on and get some silverware.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
After watching the game again, I feel I could start a few threads like RedNinja ("we need to talk about ..."), so I'll just do it here:

* Robbo ... bar one place where he was skinned, he was incredible. It's been a long time since we've had such an impressive Scot - and he's humble, works his behind off and his crossing is top fucking notch. 8 million? 8 fucking million? #ThankYouHull

* VvD & Gomez faced their toughest challenge. Bar 2-3 small mistakes, they were fine and held up. Sorry Lovren, but going to jail is probably your best chance to get play regularly.

* Milner - I'm absolutely mind boggled by how well he's playing. The passing, the work rate and that fucking tackle on that little pussy. He's incredible. Every game he's playing at a level and driving players with him. I think he knows we're close to something ...

* Gini & Hendo - I mean, what can you say? Hendo is going to be an active part of our MF rotation - he's earned it on merit, not the armband. Gini has taken his game to another level, no world cup and a "we're buying more MFers" challenge ... WHat a great headache for Klopp to have.

* This team is going places ... you can feel we're on the cusp of something. Obviously, that may mean nothing but you have everything to have a top top team - goalie, solid back line, strong deep midfield, a solid bench and plenty of match winners (we have 5, potentially 6 now). It's taken 3 years, but Klopp has built quite a team ... time to kick on and get some silverware.
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Nice Post! Klopp has been here for 3 years and made 3 finals and the players seem to bottle it. I am sure we will be in the final in one of the competitions and Inshallah Klopp breaks ends his losing finalist record..
 
LeTallecWiz said:
After watching the game again, I feel I could start a few threads like RedNinja ("we need to talk about ..."), so I'll just do it here:

* Robbo ... bar one place where he was skinned, he was incredible. It's been a long time since we've had such an impressive Scot - and he's humble, works his behind off and his crossing is top fucking notch. 8 million? 8 fucking million? #ThankYouHull

* VvD & Gomez faced their toughest challenge. Bar 2-3 small mistakes, they were fine and held up. Sorry Lovren, but going to jail is probably your best chance to get play regularly.

* Milner - I'm absolutely mind boggled by how well he's playing. The passing, the work rate and that fucking tackle on that little pussy. He's incredible. Every game he's playing at a level and driving players with him. I think he knows we're close to something ...

* Gini & Hendo - I mean, what can you say? Hendo is going to be an active part of our MF rotation - he's earned it on merit, not the armband. Gini has taken his game to another level, no world cup and a "we're buying more MFers" challenge ... WHat a great headache for Klopp to have.

* This team is going places ... you can feel we're on the cusp of something. Obviously, that may mean nothing but you have everything to have a top top team - goalie, solid back line, strong deep midfield, a solid bench and plenty of match winners (we have 5, potentially 6 now). It's taken 3 years, but Klopp has built quite a team ... time to kick on and get some silverware.
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Yeah, but Salah is shit ...
 
Tuchel is not an easy man to like. I can see why most people at Dortmund couldn't stand him after a while. Of course I'm sure he's a happy chap when he's won, but that's twice now he's left Anfield beaten fair and square and yet he's acted like he's the victim of some incredible travesty. A talented manager but I can do without the tantrums.
 
gkmacca said:
Tuchel is not an easy man to like. I can see why most people at Dortmund couldn't stand him after a while. Of course I'm sure he's a happy chap when he's won, but that's twice now he's left Anfield beaten fair and square and yet he's acted like he's the victim of some incredible travesty. A talented manager but I can do without the tantrums.
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Why are you ignoring the slightly more important issue? He is a cannibal. He *eats* young men and then desecrates the remains.
 
Atlas said:



Bobbys goal without any commentary just the sound from the ground, brilliant
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Trent looks like he's in love

Neymar in the other hand...

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Saw this and thought it was interesting to point out.. why we win so many games.. pure DESIRE.. and staying mentally SWITCHED ON..

Mbappe, considered one of the quickest in the world.. ball watching and on his heels.. Robbo, on the other hand...


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... and we know the rest.
 
gkmacca said:
Tomorrow I hope.

But maybe this'll show up, in spite of my technical naffness:


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If I could give it 10 likes, I would. Absolutely wonderful way to capture the atmosphere. The only time I've been to Anfield was near the end of Rodgers' reign when then atmosphere around the club was, I imagine, quite different from what it's now (I still thought it was boss, though). Really hope I'll get to experience Klopp's Liverpool in person.
 
gkmacca said:
Tomorrow I hope.

But maybe this'll show up, in spite of my technical naffness:


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I like when they show the tunnel and the players coming in but that’s a cracking video.

Can’t understand any fan not loving that chat.

Spine tingling
 
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