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Neymar poll

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by rurikbird, Aug 4, 2017.

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How will Neymar's career pan out at PSG?

  1. Bad choice: Neymar's star will dim in a more defensive, physical league and less stellar teammates

    4.3%
  2. OK: he will win domestic titles with PSG, but won't be able to push them over the hurdle in Europe

    57.4%
  3. Vindication: he will lead PSG to European glory and make French league popular worldwide

    10.6%
  4. He won't win as many titles as he wants at PSG, but will still win Ballon D'Or some day

    12.8%
  5. He won't stay in France for very long

    14.9%
  1. rurikbird

    rurikbird Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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    I wanted to do a poll based on the article below. Money aside, do you think Neymar made the right decision leaving Barca? Will he grow in stature now that he came out of Messi's shadow or will he diminish and regret leaving the bright lights of La Liga for a lesser and more lopsided league in France? Whatever you think of it, it's a big call, probably the most consequential decision Neymar will ever make in his career.
     
  2. mark1975

    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    I think he's an idiot personally. He's left the most productive front line in football, to essentially be the standout player at another club, something I have reservations he can become, certainly not to the level his so called peers are at anyway.

    At Barca they were a devastating trio, now he just seems to be going for personal glory and to step out of the shadow of Messi & Suarez.
     
  3. gareth_thomas

    gareth_thomas Mr. Member

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    I think he'll help PSG win Ligue 1 and the champions league... I doubt France will ever have the best league in the world though.
     
  4. Frogfish

    Frogfish Very Well-Known Member

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    I'm probably in this boat, it's certainly increased their chances in the CL and they weren't far away last season. It remains to be seen though if Neymar's arrival is the trigger for further strengthening of the team. Certainly French players would be more likely to want to move to PSG than say the PL or BL.  Winning L1 is virtually a given since Monaco have sold off some of their best players.
     
  5. keniget

    keniget Very Well-Known Member

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    Another question... who would you rather have, a 25 year old Suarez or a 25 year old Neymar?
     
  6. gareth_thomas

    gareth_thomas Mr. Member

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    Surely with all eyes on PSG's finances they are going to need to sell, potentially weakening them significantly.

    It wouldn't surprise me to see lots of bullshit commercial deals being announced next week. Perhaps one of their other friends or business contacts will help out by buying PSG fringe players for way above cost.  17 year old youth player on 15million loan deal, repeat 5 times to 5 different clubs.
     
  7. moron

    moron i am legend Member

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    I love Brazil the team ever since 1982.  I can only say that i consider Neymar the best of a bad generation of Brazillian footballers.  Dont think he is that great but leaving Barca i can understand as the article above says that team is kinda going downward and is not balanced now.  Great having messi and suarez up front but the rest of it is utter shit.

    The main problem faced by the top clubs is what i have been telling all of you for most of last season.  The world is now full of bang average players and the ones that stand out are so few and are not woth the prices quoted for them.  The new gen of players are bought up on systems and athletic ability gone are those that display a bit of excitement.

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  8. Brizzle

    Brizzle Well-Known Member

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    In a way it shows a level of ambition that he doesn't want to be known as 'the other guy' in a Suarez, Messi, Neymar front 3. He wants to prove himself. Yes - he has gone for a lot of money so you might question the ambition - but I do kind of admire that he wants to dig in and be the leader and the star. I think PSG would need to splash more cash elsewhere to make a CL challenging side, but that is where he needs to pull out his 10/10 performances if he wants the Balon D'Or one day.
     
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  9. Squiggles

    Squiggles Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    It's got everything to do with doubling his wage and guaranteeing his dad endless orgies. Everything else is just bollocks to hide that fact, protect his brand and win over the fans, IMO. I don't exactly blame him for doing so.
     
  10. Mors

    Mors Well-Known Member

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    He wont be winning the world player of the year whilst he's there, as he's not good enough, and its a shit league.
     
  11. ILD

    ILD Very Well-Known Member

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    Is there shades of the Kyrie Irving story here? Both want to be the main man and not play under someone else's shadow?

    For non NBA fans, Kyrie doesn't want to play with Lebron any more and try lead a team on his own.

    The money Neymar is getting must be making it easy to decide too.
     
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    They are pretty close already. Didn't they make the semis recently ? And last season sensationally went out to Barca 6-5 in the last 16 after having thrashed them 4-0 in Paris. They were in the right side of the draw to go all the way to the final where of course anything could happen in a one off.
     
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    Presumably there is also a lot of pressure in Brazil for him to be "the" star and win the Ballon D'or like those that came before him.
     
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    Well, failure certainly isn't an option with the money involved , would like him to fail miserably but he will obviously score a bucket load in France.


    Bothered
     
  15. willby

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    With or without Neymar, PSG winning the league is a foregone conclusion, so any talk of him needing a new challenge is BS. My take is he will be off in 2-3 yrs to the PL, where the real challenge is.

    * Nothing to do La Liga taxation witchunt?
     
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    Is winning Ligue 1 a foregone conclusion in the next few years? Are Monaco capable of retaining their title?

    Neymar is used to carrying Brazil so I presume he will once again act as the main man and try restore P$G back to the top of Ligue 1. That won't be enough for him but winning a CL with P$G might elevate him to be that year's World's Best Player and earn him a much coveted Ballon D'Or.
     
  17. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever Looking on the brightside Member

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    Suarez every time
     
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    darkstarexodus Well-Known Member

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    In the end, even if he wins the Champions League with PSG, will this give him a better legacy than, say, winning 3 or 4 with Barca (including at least 1 post-Messi)? I'm not convinced. The Ligue 1 titles wont count for much, even against Spanish titles so it really comes down to how they perform in Europe.

    They have a chance to take the step to the next level but there are no guarantees they will do so.
     
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    Not a perfect analogy, but I wonder if the move has shades of Lewis Hamilton leaving McLaren when they had the best car to go to Mercedes who were much lower on the grid.

    Everyone thought he was crazy but Mercedes had the biggest budget and within a year or two they had the best car and Hamilton was winning again while McLaren fell behind. PSG could easily become the best side in Europe with Qatar's money and Barcelona may struggle to replace their ageing superstars.
     
  20. darkstarexodus

    darkstarexodus Well-Known Member

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    I think that's fair enough - jumping before the decline - but if his legacy is what he is most concerned about, can he ever achieve that kind of legacy in France?
     

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