Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by SummerOnions, May 16, 2018.
So is Klavan, apparently
Klavan - ok.
Moreno - WHY?
WTF? So we're rewarding mediocrity.
He's this generations Lucas.
While he has his fuck up games he had a good first half of the season and picked up some nominations in the MOTM threads (more than Klavan for example) which point to the fact he had some decent matches. Even in this forum he got plaudits for that. As I have previously mentioned he seems to buck the normal trend of injured players improving in fans eyes during their time out of the team
Not bad to have as back up to Robbo; we need numbers in the squad
Haters gonna hate, but Moreno is a good backup.
Not hating just think moreno is shit. He's ridiculously inconsistent. You just don't know what you're gonna get when he's on the pitch.
Do you know what's going to happen? He'll come on as a sub in the final and score a wonder goal that'll win the Champions League and he'll be here FOR EVER.
I'm ok with that
As long as he never plays for us again after that
He is actually very good as an athlete...fast and has a very good shot and decent crossing. People just have a go at him for stuff that does not even involve him. He had a bad game against Sevilla and thats it. TAA, Lovren, Gomez have all had bad silly moments in multiple games that have led to goals and games lost this season but people are willing to persist with them.
Aside from some of his decision making...in every other way Moreno is a Klopp type player.
Also Klavan has been brilliant whenever he has been the other partner to our main CB in the game.
Yes, he was good at the start of the season and did indeed have some impressive games, before injury allowed Robbo in, and he never looked looked back.
But there's no denying that he's capable of the most brainless decisions, and that's very costly in a defender, regardless of how quick and energetic he is in attack.
I don't hate him. I was actually very happy for him first part of season. I still just think we can get better as he seem to bring uncertainty into the team when he has his fra games now. It is something with positioning etc. But if he improved a lot one summer maybe he will ise this one good as well.
Indeed he was one of our better players until he got injured...
Would you blow 30-40M of our transfer budget to get a Moreno upgrade as backup to Robbo or push Robbo to #2, or save that for a higher priority position?
I know which I prefer
Moreno is turning into (Klopps) Lucas.
He's happy to be here, seems a good lad to have around and is decent back up for Robbo. We're also a lot less vulnerable if a full back gets beat or makes a kistake now big Virgil is patrolling the middle.
My old man used to be completely blasé about shit wingers like Tony Daley beating our full back as we had Hansen etc in the middle.
Its not about him getting beat though, its about him making a colossal fuck up when no one is expecting it and he's under minimal pressure. That puts everyone on the back foot. I can forgive fullbacks getting done in the occasional one v one, but not when they dive in recklessly, leaving the rest of the defense stretched open. Which him, Lovren and Gomez often do.
That’s why he’s backup.
I saw this about a week ago - and it stacks up with the fact we aren’t being seriously linked with Defenders (other than kids).
We’re not planning on shifting our or bringing in any Defenders this window.
It’s all about the midfield and forward line - with keeper in the balance between a new first choice and a back up.
I’m ok with this.
I made this point a while ago
Was he actually good that half of the season, or was he "good for Moreno".
I know I certainly complimented his improvement....but was he ACTUALLY, tangibly good?
He was good