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Encourage the Karius

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by rurikbird, Feb 9, 2018.

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What are your thoughts on Karius as LFC’s #1 until the end of the season

  1. I’ll support him no matter what (because the alternatives are worse)

    31.5%
  2. Let’s see how he does in the next few games

    50.0%
  3. He is hopeless; I can’t wait until the replacement in the summer

    16.7%
  4. Give Ward a chance!

    1.9%
  1. rurikbird

    rurikbird Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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    I thought Spurs was the first game when Karius finally looked like a Liverpool goalkeeper (in a good sense, obviously) - not only thanks to some key saves, but also because his distribution and decision-making were almost always spot-on; he was aggressive without being rash and but for the 2nd (IMO unjustly awarded) penalty he should have taken the plaudits for winning us the game along with Salah.

    Being the #1 goalkeeper at Liverpool FC is probably one of the most ungrateful jobs in sports: the fans and media scrutiny is relentless and often viewed through the prism of past disappointments (which in the goal-keeping department are many), while our traditionally attacking playing style with irregular, but usually catastrophic defensive breakdowns seems perfectly designed to destroy any semblance of rhythm and confidence of any but the most psychologically resilient keeper. I have to admit - after the Man City game I myself was so irritated by the 3 soft goals we conceded that my first reaction was that I didn’t want to see Karius play for Liverpool ever again. I was somewhat surprised that Klopp stuck with him, but I think now that the decision has been made (and so far vindicated not only by Loris’s solid game vs Spurs, but also by Mignolet’s pitiful showing against West Brom - in all likelihood his last game for the club) we as fans should try to get over our anxieties about the GK position and support Karius wholeheartedly until the end of the season. His performances in Germany and our coaching team’s faith in him indicate that he has talent and at the very least he should be able to play much better than what he showed in his stop-start LFC career so far. I won’t sugar-coat his mistakes, but I’ll try to be as positive and supportive of Karius as I can until the end of the season. Who is with me?
     
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  2. Fabio

    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    I said the other day I'm willing to give him a clean slate. Now he's behind an organiser , I'm hopeful we'll see the best of him
     
  3. Insignificance

    Insignificance Bad to the bone Member

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    Yeah he was good. But I bet you he will be punished one day for those 20 second sequences he holds the ball.
     
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    He’s beyond shit.
     
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  6. rurikbird

    rurikbird Very Well-Known Honorary Member

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  7. davud graham

    davud graham Dude Member

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    He still should have caught the cross which he punched out to Wanyama. You couldn't have expected Wanyama to score so well from where he did but that doesn't excuse a Goalkeeper not catching a tamely hit and within reach cross. Goalies like Karius and MIgnolet will continually let you down because they are just not good enough.
     
  8. The Nomad

    The Nomad Very Active Member

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    That punch for 'Wagamama's' thunderbolt was shit. I want my keeper catching that, or minimum push it wide.

    Take nothing from the strike, but it was palmed back into thr danger zone.
     
  9. Athens

    Athens Greatest Bloke Ever [Citation Needed] Member

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    He must have some hidden talent, surely Klopp can't be totally fucking clueless about goalkeepers?
     
  10. jason

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    I heard somewhere that they are trained to punch those out rather than catch them, I don't know if it´s true though.

    I just think that he´s been through a hailstorm of criticism and overwrought training and deserves a lot more time than he´s had.
     
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    davud graham Dude Member

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    If he's been trained to do things like that then you have to question the training methods then. As for him receiving criticism ,well that wouldn't have happened if he had appeared in any way competent. Most people were sick of Mignolet making mistakes and welcomed a change of goalkeeper when we bought Karius but he hasn't been an improvement and makes just as many fuck ups. Ask yourself how many games has he had where you thought to yourself Karius was outstanding in that game and if you can name more than one then you have a better memory than me.
     
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    It wasn't palmed into the danger zone, it was punched about 20 yards.
     
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    He´s looked like a rabbit in the headlights. for too many games, but I blame the over meticulous training. They´re trying to think of ten different things whilst the ball is coming at them at sixty three mph. No wonder they´re freezing.
     
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    Nearly every pundit said the same thing...they are trained to punch it out these days. I dont blame him for that goal.
     
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    Yeah he’s deserved criticism for almost every game he’s played, but not that punch. If that was a punch into the danger zone, I wonder what the OP considers the penalty area to be.
     
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    Mignolet has had more than enough chances to disprove the notion that he's not up to standard. Karius hasn't exactly inspired confidence but I'm glad he's getting a run in the team in order to prove himself.
     
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    Karius punches it away, can has a chance to clear it and misses, Oxo makes no attempt for it

    Multiple people I'll criticise ahead of karius
     
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    He's clearly improving as his confidence and familiarity with what's expected of him increases. Is he good enough long term? Seriously doubt it. We've had one top class keeper in about 30 years, it would be so nice to buy someone who's fucking brilliant.
     
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    What choice do we have but to hope he doenst have a fcuk up, which is proably likely.
     
  20. manwithnoname

    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Member

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    Yeah. I understand the enthusiasm, which veers into desperation, for Karius to be a top goalkeeper for us. The levels of hype when he joined seemed as much about finally getting shut of Mignolet, rather than any detailed knowledge of his quality.

    But he's been fucking dreadful far too often for me to be anything other than despairing of him. He is jittery, erratic, and is utterly HOPELESS under any type of cross or high ball.

    So I have no hope at all that Karius will ever be good enough to carry us to the title.

    In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dropped again before the end of the season.

    I admit that I wasn't ever really convinced, in fact back in 2016, I said this about his performance against Swansea, and we WON that game:

    (4) a dithering, hopeless calamity. Utterly rooted to the spot; whenever a high ball came into the box, or even the 6 yard area, Karius stood watching and totally useless. So fortunate not to concede more than one. If this is his level, we've replaced Mignolet with an even worse keeper.
     
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