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even factoring in the blubbering from her and the existential crisis that will unfold in both our personal and lives and marriage.

My previous dentist was so upset when her children had fled the nest, that she hanged herself.
 
I had my one and only at 45. Wouldn’t change it for the world. Lived a full and pretty mental life up till that point. Now a new chapter. Best one yet.
 
My previous dentist was so upset when her children had fled the nest, that she hanged herself.

That's incredibly sad. I do worry about my wife in this regard as she's always been a very supportive mum.

Why do you guys have kids if you’re so eager to get rid of them??

Genuine question btw

It's not an eagerness to get rid at all and I expect them to be back. But I had my kids very young and have felt myself defined and cornered by my ability to provide for them. Their leaving is liberating. I didn't mean to bring them into the world in the first place.
 
Obviously none of you would replace my actual Dad, who is easily the best person I’ve ever met.

However, he is an Evertonian.

And that is, as we all know, a genetic defect that can be passed down or skip generations.

Same here, my Dad is a true gent and a totally genuine, likable guy. But an Evertonian.
 
Anyway, this team is performing like something we were capable of in the 1970's and 1980's. Hopefully we can make up for my 20's and 30's where we barely put together a title challenge. I'd love to see us win the league in my 40's.

Love you Sean x
 
Why do you guys have kids if you’re so eager to get rid of them??

Genuine question btw

Maybe I'm in the minority but despite the hard work (it is) and difficult challenges parenting presents (seeing my little one this year go through kidney surgery was so difficult - I couldn't do anything but little trooper has been great since), I love it and love my little rascals to bits. They grow up too fast and I dread the days where they'll be too cool or busy for their old man, but alas, that's the circle of life ... DAAAAAH DASAVENIA or however you spell it (circle of life intro)
 
I dunno whether to respect or pity you people in 40s and 50s having kids now. I wouldn't have the energy or patience. If I found out my bird was pregnant now one of us would have to go. I've done my bit, and was happy my youngest left today for uni, even factoring in the blubbering from her and the existential crisis that will unfold in both our personal and lives and marriage.
You should set her up with a squadie to take her mind off it. You can probably watch too.
 
35 but with a 13 year old.... stepson! Came into my life when I was already done with freedom and partying, never changed a diaper in my life, and he'll be off to university by the time I'm 40. He's a great kid and couldn't be happier with him - hes my boy, despite being a smug cunt teenager. Wife is in agreement not to have any more so we can live our 40s the way we want, being craft beer wankers biking our way around the world. Definitely couldn't have planned much better.
 
It's not an eagerness to get rid at all and I expect them to be back. But I had my kids very young and have felt myself defined and cornered by my ability to provide for them. Their leaving is liberating. I didn't mean to bring them into the world in the first place.

A bit of a relief.

37 now and had always prided myself on retaining my independence and freedom in my youth when friends all round were caught up in diapers, doctor visits and endless talk of pepper pig(?) etc. Can’t imagine spending my precious nights putting some kid to bed when I’m only in my 20s/30s!

Then panicked a bit when all of you started talking about how shit it was to have kids late... and wondering if I should just skip it altogether
 
A bit of a relief.

37 now and had always prided myself on retaining my independence and freedom in my youth when friends all round were caught up in diapers, doctor visits and endless talk of pepper pig(?) etc. Can’t imagine spending my precious nights putting some kid to bed when I’m only in my 20s/30s!

Then panicked a bit when all of you started talking about how shit it was to have kids late... and wondering if I should just skip it altogether

Bad idea. Get in there.
 
Bad idea. Get in there.
Dunno. If you're happy with the life you lead and the thought of having kids scares you, then I wouldn't recommend it.

I love my kids to bits, but at the same time if I didn't have any I would still be pretty happy!
 
Kids are enormously rewarding but there's no doubt they involve sacrifice. Without being soppy you do find a love you've never had before with them. My kids are now 13 and 12 and it is brilliant being able to leave them when you need to, and they don't need you every waking minute. I couldn't envisage starting again with little ones.
 
Kids are enormously rewarding but there's no doubt they involve sacrifice. Without being soppy you do find a love you've never had before with them. My kids are now 13 and 12 and it is brilliant being able to leave them when you need to, and they don't need you every waking minute. I couldn't envisage starting again with little ones.
Yeah, my son is now 5 and even though with him sometimes you still have the struggles of having a small child (shouting "get your shoes on!" four times before leaving for school) he's old enough to chat too and share a few jokes with while walking to the square and what not. Although, the other day he cracked a terrible joke and he laughed at it, obviously he needs to work on his humour...
 
Why do you guys have kids if you’re so eager to get rid of them??

Genuine question btw

I am not sure it is about being eager getting rid. I have had mine for 24 years now, and I enjoy it a lot. However it is Nice to see him make Next step in life. Constant development. And now being in an age were we can do other stuff together than we did when he was 3 or 10 or 16. So it is good to see him making his own life and I can do mine. Some of my mates have kids from 2-12 now and they are in a state of mind where they would like to have more freedom, and envy me the life of having kids With their own life while they are still caught in the timetrap and hardly have time to og to any gig, or just watch a Friday night game if it was one on. Even CL games are getting difficult to watch at the pub it seems.
 
Yeah, my son is now 5 and even though with him sometimes you still have the struggles of having a small child (shouting "get your shoes on!" four times before leaving for school) he's old enough to chat too and share a few jokes with while walking to the square and what not. Although, the other day he cracked a terrible joke and he laughed at it, obviously he needs to work on his humour...

Yah my eldest (9) is starting to crack jokes etc, as is the 7 year old ... and they're using my own lines on me, which cracks me up to no end ... Cheeky buggers
 
I have a two year old daughter. Here's my advise on whether to have / have not:

You'll be happy either way.

Believe me, I was never a big fan of small kids. But my word, when its your own, the level of love you have is quite scary, and you can't picture life without them.

However, if you don't have kids you don't experience this level of love, so you don't really know what you're missing, and can live your life thinking (knowing?) you made the right choice.
 
If I didn't have kids I'd probably still be a techno DJ living in a flat above a shop, or in a loony bin or something. They certainly made me get my arse in gear. I always had it in my head that when they grew up and left I'd revert to total irresponsibility, but here I am sat at my desk working on bullshit and titting around on message boards instead.
 
Oh you poor bugger ! Your fifties & sixties are the decades where you get to enjoy life, sex & travel without hassle.
Yeah but nobody can take away my memories of the fun I had in my 30's and 40's as a carefree pisshead. On top of that I'm cheating as an older Dad; I sold my shares in my company just before the 2nd kid was born and have retired :) IMO it would not be possible to have a job and be a parent of young kids at my age. My day so far has involved; getting up early to help sort the kids out, walk the 4 year old to school, walk the dog in the park, mid-morning nap (from which I've just woken up) and now up to the village for lunch with my wife (and hopefully a sleeping baby). I might even sneak ina pint or two in my local before I pick up the older kid from school...............and yes, I know I come across as a smug cunt :)
 
Mine are 7 and 10, and are at the stage of stopping needing me all the time, which I am not sure I am comfortable with, I have enjoyed playing and helping them develop for the last 10 years, now they don't really need me. Now trying to work out what to do with regained free time. The Mountain bike is being battered at the moment

We are also going through choosing secondary schools, what a step that is.....
 
Yeah but nobody can take away my memories of the fun I had in my 30's and 40's as a carefree pisshead. On top of that I'm cheating as an older Dad; I sold my shares in my company just before the 2nd kid was born and have retired :) IMO it would not be possible to have a job and be a parent of young kids at my age. My day so far has involved; getting up early to help sort the kids out, walk the 4 year old to school, walk the dog in the park, mid-morning nap (from which I've just woken up) and now up to the village for lunch with my wife (and hopefully a sleeping baby). I might even sneak ina pint or two in my local before I pick up the older kid from school...............and yes, I know I come across as a smug cunt :)
Haha nothing beats retiring early ... I retired 2-3 years ago at 56-57 (it was a gradual process of closing my company down) and have now gone back to hiking / camping, usually in remote and/or high altitude areas .... and I honestly can't remember having that much fun when I was younger, skint and more concerned with getting laid but then I wasn't into photography at that time, which I hope will provide a small supplemental income into old age so that we're not gradually eroding our savings.
 
Haha nothing beats retiring early ... I retired 2-3 years ago at 56-57 (it was a gradual process of closing my company down) and have now gone back to hiking / camping, usually in remote and/or high altitude areas .... and I honestly can't remember having that much fun when I was younger, skint and more concerned with getting laid but then I wasn't into photography at that time, which I hope will provide a small supplemental income into old age so that we're not gradually eroding our savings.
Couldn't agree more Froggy. I am sure there will always be a demand for your photography, you've posted some amazing shots on this site.

I hadn't actually intended to retire but was bored shitless for years in the office and at a recent director's meeting I spontaneously just asked if the other director's would buy me out at a very competitive price......they couldn't say no.

Funnily enough I'll probably go back to work part-time when we move to Czech Republic (fuck Brexit etc) either side of Xmas because in my wife's hometown there is a huge shortage of English speaking people and I already have job offers to give lessons in "conversational English" to business people. I think it could be fun and a good way to meet new people.
 
give lessons in "conversational English" to business people. I think it could be fun and a good way to meet new people.

I've done this a few times. It's seriously piss easy and is very enjoyable. The only problems were I wasn't getting enough hours, and you do get the odd tricky question about English grammar. Are past participles a form of irregular verb? Fucked if I know, mate.
 
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