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Sam Allardyce will be sacked as Everton manager within the next 48 hours.
And former Hull and Watford boss Marco Silva has emerged as the number one pick to succeed him, despite complications relating to his departure from Vicarage Road.
After weeks of uncertainty over his future, Blues owner Farhad Moshiri will finally pull the trigger on the manager he hired only last November in a desperate attempt then to stop the club’s slide into the relegation zone.
We understand Allardyce will be summoned to a meeting within the next two days to be given the news his contract, that has a year to run, will be terminated.

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Allardyce has steered Everton to an eight-place finish but his brand of football was a turn-off (Image: AFP/Getty)
The veteran boss himself read the writing on the wall last week, when he admitted that far from being confident he would be in charge next season – as he had always previously maintained – the signs were that he had lost the confidence of the Blues board.
Speaking on Sky Sports on Monday night, Allardyce admitted: “Who knows what is going to happen next. The season is over. I’m going to have a meeting with Farhad and then I am going on my holidays.
“I have done what I can, the backroom staff have done all that they can and for me the players have done all they can.”

It was Moshiri who personally interviewed and appointed the former England manager on November 30, with the Blues teetering in 13 place on the fringes of the drop zone.
But despite an immediate new boss bounce with Everton winning their next five matches, Allardyce never remotely came close to winning over the Goodison faithful.
Fans protested about his style of play and began increasingly to boo the manager at matches, culminating in a mass walk out at the end of the final Goodison game of the season, with less than 5,000 normally loyal supporters remaining to give the players their traditional send off.

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That threat of supporter action – and ugly scenes at the London Stadium last weekend when Everton fans were seen fighting amongst themselves on the terraces with the manager said to be the catalyst – has persuaded Moshiri to act.
It is understood he has already spoken to both Silva and Shaktar Donetsk manager Paulo Fonseca, along with several other candidates, but has always regarded Silva as his number once choice since first trying to land him back in November.
The 40 year old was sacked by Watford in January when results dipped following Everton's approach in January. At the time, the club issued a statement blaming that approach for their decision to replace Silva.
“The club is convinced...had it not been for the unwarranted approach by a Premier League rival for his services we would have continued to prosper under his leadership,” the statement read.
“The catalyst for this decision is that unwarranted approach, something which the Board believes has seen a significant deterioration in both focus and results to the point where the long-term future of Watford FC has been jeopardised.”
The problem for Everton now will be the claim that their initial approach was an illegal one, and if this proved then they could be forced to pay significant compensation – and possibly even face disciplinary action. Big Sam sat with Moshiri at the win over West Ham the night before he was PA)
Silva had a break clause in his contract with Watford which would have allowed him to leave at 'low cost' this summer, but Watford are likely to argue that is void because of Everton's approach.
Moshiri will attempt to negotiate a solution with the Premier League club, and that could be completed in the next few days. Only if that proves impossible will he turn to Fonseca.
The sacking after just five and a half months comes as a low point at Goodison following Moshiri's takeover of the club.
He had originally allowed chairman Bill Kenwright to guide the day to day running of the club, but has increasingly moved the operations away from the former owner and chief executive Robert Elstone, with neither thought to be involved in the decision to hire or fire Allardyce.
Instead, Moshiri has called on the wisdom of new advisors, with football deal maker Keith Harris thought to be in line to take a position at the club in the coming weeks, amid rumours that Kenwright could depart.
Fans have already grown weary of the lack of direction of the new regime following years of stability if not financial muscle, and Moshiri knows he can make no more mistakes with his next appointment.
 
Its a bit nefarious like. Everton tap him up, Watford say he will cost 12m quid to buy out of his contract.
Everton sign Fat Bastard for 6 months, meanwhile Watford go on a horrific run, Silva gets sacked, turns down 2 jobs then Everton appoint him saving 12m

If I was a Watford fan id want the cunt strung up.
 
8th place isnt bad for them is it?

For some reason the footballing world got super hyped last summer when they lost one of the leagues best forwards and spent a load of money on meh players, you know whoever comes in will likely make them less turgid but see them finish well below 8th next season
 
Its a bit nefarious like. Everton tap him up, Watford say he will cost 12m quid to buy out of his contract.
Everton sign Fat Bastard for 6 months, meanwhile Watford go on a horrific run, Silva gets sacked, turns down 2 jobs then Everton appoint him saving 12m

If I was a Watford fan id want the cunt strung up.

Fat Joe Anderson will be on the phone to the bizzies.
 
Its a bit nefarious like. Everton tap him up, Watford say he will cost 12m quid to buy out of his contract.
Everton sign Fat Bastard for 6 months, meanwhile Watford go on a horrific run, Silva gets sacked, turns down 2 jobs then Everton appoint him saving 12m

If I was a Watford fan id want the cunt strung up.
Knowing Everton though, the whole fat sam episode has cost them more than that 12M they saved, through wages, bonuses and compensation for him and mini me.

No one's a winner here ...

 
Honestly the whole Everton thing has been a laugh, but I'd like them to get relegated now, we've got better things to focus on.
 
It'd be a shame if they started the season like last time round... who would they turn to to bail them out then?

Moyes back?

And order would be restored.
 
The bitters don't want Moyes either. Despite all that "you don't need to win fuck all to be a winner" shite, they know he also pumped out some turgid fare. They have this 'school of science' mythos (coined in 1928) that reemerged under Martinez and the daft dickheads think that means they have a patent on beautiful footy at Goodison.
 
He did exactly what they asked him to do, so I think it's a disgrace that they haven't kept him on as manager, and also given him a long contract extension.
 
Sam Allardyce will be sacked as Everton manager within the next 48 hours.
And former Hull and Watford boss Marco Silva has emerged as the number one pick to succeed him, despite complications relating to his departure from Vicarage Road.
After weeks of uncertainty over his future, Blues owner Farhad Moshiri will finally pull the trigger on the manager he hired only last November in a desperate attempt then to stop the club’s slide into the relegation zone.
We understand Allardyce will be summoned to a meeting within the next two days to be given the news his contract, that has a year to run, will be terminated.

Evertons-English-manager-Sam-Allardyce.jpg

Allardyce has steered Everton to an eight-place finish but his brand of football was a turn-off (Image: AFP/Getty)
The veteran boss himself read the writing on the wall last week, when he admitted that far from being confident he would be in charge next season – as he had always previously maintained – the signs were that he had lost the confidence of the Blues board.
Speaking on Sky Sports on Monday night, Allardyce admitted: “Who knows what is going to happen next. The season is over. I’m going to have a meeting with Farhad and then I am going on my holidays.
“I have done what I can, the backroom staff have done all that they can and for me the players have done all they can.”

It was Moshiri who personally interviewed and appointed the former England manager on November 30, with the Blues teetering in 13 place on the fringes of the drop zone.
But despite an immediate new boss bounce with Everton winning their next five matches, Allardyce never remotely came close to winning over the Goodison faithful.
Fans protested about his style of play and began increasingly to boo the manager at matches, culminating in a mass walk out at the end of the final Goodison game of the season, with less than 5,000 normally loyal supporters remaining to give the players their traditional send off.

Premier-League-Watford-vs-West-Ham-United.jpg

That threat of supporter action – and ugly scenes at the London Stadium last weekend when Everton fans were seen fighting amongst themselves on the terraces with the manager said to be the catalyst – has persuaded Moshiri to act.
It is understood he has already spoken to both Silva and Shaktar Donetsk manager Paulo Fonseca, along with several other candidates, but has always regarded Silva as his number once choice since first trying to land him back in November.
The 40 year old was sacked by Watford in January when results dipped following Everton's approach in January. At the time, the club issued a statement blaming that approach for their decision to replace Silva.
“The club is convinced...had it not been for the unwarranted approach by a Premier League rival for his services we would have continued to prosper under his leadership,” the statement read.
“The catalyst for this decision is that unwarranted approach, something which the Board believes has seen a significant deterioration in both focus and results to the point where the long-term future of Watford FC has been jeopardised.”
The problem for Everton now will be the claim that their initial approach was an illegal one, and if this proved then they could be forced to pay significant compensation – and possibly even face disciplinary action. Big Sam sat with Moshiri at the win over West Ham the night before he was PA)
Silva had a break clause in his contract with Watford which would have allowed him to leave at 'low cost' this summer, but Watford are likely to argue that is void because of Everton's approach.
Moshiri will attempt to negotiate a solution with the Premier League club, and that could be completed in the next few days. Only if that proves impossible will he turn to Fonseca.
The sacking after just five and a half months comes as a low point at Goodison following Moshiri's takeover of the club.
He had originally allowed chairman Bill Kenwright to guide the day to day running of the club, but has increasingly moved the operations away from the former owner and chief executive Robert Elstone, with neither thought to be involved in the decision to hire or fire Allardyce.
Instead, Moshiri has called on the wisdom of new advisors, with football deal maker Keith Harris thought to be in line to take a position at the club in the coming weeks, amid rumours that Kenwright could depart.
Fans have already grown weary of the lack of direction of the new regime following years of stability if not financial muscle, and Moshiri knows he can make no more mistakes with his next appointment.

"football deal maker Keith Harris"

Knowing the Bitters they'll get the other one
 
A Portuguese guy on Xpert eleven was telling me recently that Marco Silva has a terrible reputation in Portugal as a tricksy litigious fly-boy who is always playing the system to his own advantage.
 
8th place isnt bad for them is it?

For some reason the footballing world got super hyped last summer when they lost one of the leagues best forwards and spent a load of money on meh players, you know whoever comes in will likely make them less turgid but see them finish well below 8th next season

That was my point about how over-hyped this league is. For a team to have been as crap as Everton, before and after the managerial change, and still end up relatively comfortably in the upper half of the table, well, it's not much of a sign of how utterly fantastic and competitive 'the best league in the world' is, is it? It allows endlessly predictable, hopelessly limited journeymen managers like Pulis and Allardyce to keep 'performing miracles,' and a manager like Hodgson to repeatedly wipe the minds of his critics, Men in Black style, and reappear as a budding manager of the season and tactical genius. They're more like sad old uncles performing their one tiresome party trick every Christmas. If this really was such a great league, these buffoons would be chewed up and spat out and consigned to the lower league obscurity they so richly deserve.
 
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Everton should back sam, he could get them into europe.

And they would do well there. Just look at the two results agaist the CL finalist this year.... And then totally ignore that in the away game they had 100 succesful passes in 95 minutes of football, which is more than 1 per minute.
 
That was my point about how over-hyped this league is. For a team to have been as crap as Everton, before and after the managerial change, and still end up relatively comfortably in the upper half of the table, well, it's not much of a sign of how utterly fantastic and competitive 'the best league in the world' is, is it? It allows endlessly predictable, hopelessly limited journeymen managers like Pulis and Allardyce to keep 'performing miracles,' and a manager like Hodgson to repeatedly wipe the minds of his critics, Men in Black style, and reappear as a budding manager of the season and tactical genius. They're more like sad old uncles performing their one tiresome party trick every Christmas. If this really was such a great league, these buffoons would be chewed up and spat out and consigned to the lower league obscurity they so richly deserve.

Just noticed that only the top 6 had a plus goal difference.
 
Can't see what where they go from here. Fat Sam is as good a manger as they need, they won't have a huge amount to spend on their squad rebuild this summer and they have a few oldies that need to be replaced; Rooney, Coleman, Baines and Williams. Think they will have a real hard time of it whoever they appoint. Could easily do a Swansea
 
And they got him. So not wanting him doesn't seem to be a reason for not getting him. One minute you sit in the sun and whistle With no worries, and a second later Gollum is there laughing at you.

Yes, I'm sure West Ham were "sitting in the sun and whistling with no worries" when they were in the relegation zone and had only won twice in 11 games.
 
On Hodgson, isn't he perversely fascinating? I mean, we're probably the only set of fans who really worked him out, so his amazing ability to somehow memory-wipe hacks makes it all the more astonishing to us. When he came to us, hacks were ridiculing us for failing to appreciate how great he was, and no matter what Poulsen or Konchesky he brought in, no matter how petty and unpleasant he was with Scando reporters at pressers, no matter how clueless he was against the likes of Northampton, he somehow retained his image as 'nice and bright old Woy' ('He reads novels, y'know!'). Then when he went to Engerlund, you would have thought he'd finally wrecked that image and not even London hacks would buy into it any more, but surprise surprise, he keeps Palace up and I've heard some hacks actually calling for him to be Manager of the Season.It's incredible. Some managers only need one failure to dog them for the rest of their lives. Hodgson just keeps going. Absolute disaster at LFC? Can't remember that. Humiliating performance as England manager? Nope, can't remember that, either. What a teflon-treated twerp he is.
 
Actually I think Hodgson was unlucky at Anfield. His arrival coincided with the departure of Mascherano who had been doing a hell of a lot of heavy-lifting for the team at the time. The fixture list was also very unkind to him with some very tough matches right at the start of the season.
 
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