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Poll So what do you think about £75m for VvD?

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Are we right to pay £75m for VvD

  • Yes, the fee is irrelevant he will make a sufficiently significant difference

    Votes: 41 60.3%
  • No, He's a cracking defender and will improve us but £75m is insane

    Votes: 24 35.3%
  • No, He's an average EPL CB but his form is shit and the money is pure insanity

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • No, just no. He's no better than Lovren

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Total voters
    68
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dee

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Time to put your money where your mouth is. Feel free to expand on your selection
 
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FWIW I voted Yes. We haven't had a commanding CB since Hyppia and without one you don't win anything without getting lucky. You pay for what you get and Top CBs are as precious, and rare, as Harry Kanes.
 
I voted yes but I would also like to see if spending 75m impacts our spending in other areas.
 
Sorry but this thread serves no purpose other than repetitive meaningless discussion.

All of us will be waiting with baited breath when VVD makes his debut for us. Then you'll see the 'I told you so' threads popping up all over this place.

I guess what I'm saying is time will tell.


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£75mill is a lot of money, but that’s the market we are in currently.

He fills a need in the team, one we have missed since Hyypia/Carra, he’s a leader, he’s a unit, he’s a top class defender.

Whenever you think about the price and think, shit! that’s a lot of money, just remember John Stones cost £50mill and VVD is x10 the player he is.
 
No problem wth it IF he does the business.It's taken way too long to get this position sorted though.As other posters have said we have been waiting since Sami hung up his boots for a commanding CB who can win the aerial battles and then confidently stride out withe ball.Hopefully Van will be the man to solve this position for the next 5 years.
 
I don't care because it's not like we would land any of our other top targets if we scrimped on VVD
 
If we had unlimited funds, nobody would. But we don’t.

We spent £40m on AOC, which most people balked at, same with the £25m on Lallana. People forget if the performances start coming, so the fee is fairly irrelevant. He'll be a success or he won't, people will use the fee to bury him if he fails, but the money is neither here nor there - if he's a success no one will give a fuck about how much he cost, apart from a few inevitable fan agenda's that will use it as some tool to measure his pound for pound value for money.

We were lambasted for not spending with the big boys, but in the last 6 months we've spent £200m on Kieta, Salah, AOC and VVD, so now we're overspending. Is the team better? We've improved from the addition of two of those, so if Kieta and VVD lift us further, it's money well spent.

The flip side is we've got three of our longterm players in Robertson, Gomez and Trent Alexander Arnold for next to fuck all. I've always maintained that as a club we needed to not just spend big, but to spend well at the lower end of the market, where your scouts really earn their crust. We've done both of late, so it would be ridiculous to complain.
 
"People will forget about the money that has been spent in a year or twos time if they can win trophies and get that defence right."
Gary Neville
 
On current form Salah is worth £150m and we didn't pay £40m for him, swings and rounds eh. My biggest concern now would be him getting up to speed quickly enough to start making a difference to us this season.
 
On current form Salah is worth £150m and we didn't pay £40m for him, swings and rounds eh. My biggest concern now would be him getting up to speed quickly enough to start making a difference to us this season.

I think the idea with bringing him in now, apart from obvious interest from City, is with a view to next season. We'll try and get him going this season because there's alot to play for, but it now means he can hit the ground running next season. There was a danger he would rot for the rest of the season at Southampton and then his fitness etc would have been a huge concern.
 
I guess I should have added I really hope we do pay £75m for him as that means all the inevitable clauses regarding EPL and CL will have been met
 
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You can say that with every signing though. Speculate to accumulate is THE biggest factor in success in this game, but the room for success is tiny. If he plays for us for he next few years and we remain within the mix and repeatedly in the Champions League, then he's also a success, because he's helped us remain relevant and a force domestically and in Europe. Torres won nothing with us, but he was arguably one of our most successful signings in terms of the team we became with him as the catalyst, same with Suarez. "Success" is relative.
 
The fee is irrelevant. No point in sitting with the funds like the Gooners then complaining how the Gaffer failed to address weaknesses in the team. Fat bank balance and thin in quality in the squad makes no sense.

He may well be lacking match fitness but he will turn out to be exactly what we need, that dominant, commanding centre half we desperately need. His arrival should signal the end for Lovren which is a bonus in itself.

He didnt deliver for S'oton this season because his head was turned and his heart was at Anfield. You'll see a significant contribution with him in a Liverpool shirt. I'm excited by this transfer. Not only does it address a key area of weakness, but it shows ambition on the clubs part and shows that FSG mean business.

Next is a keeper :) to give us a real crack at the CL.
 
You can say that with every signing though. Speculate to accumulate is THE biggest factor in success in this game, but the room for success is tiny. If he plays for us for he next few years and we remain within the mix and repeatedly in the Champions League, then he's also a success, because he's helped us remain relevant and a force domestically and in Europe. Torres won nothing with us, but he was arguably one of our most successful signings in terms of the team we became with him as the catalyst, same with Suarez. "Success" is relative.

Success is winning things you Hodgson-esque fucker
 
If we had unlimited funds, nobody would. But we don’t.

It's for the clubs accountants to be concerned with, if a 75m fee is being sanctioned, we can afford it. The club were happy for the echo to push the £200m warchest in the summer narrative, now we are spending it.
 
In relation to the club turnover, (see other thread)

75 million really ain't as big a fee as it sounds
 
Success is winning things you Hodgson-esque fucker

Haha.. I think you know what I mean. We've lost players before because we've had a great season and then sold players and/or fallen away dramatically. We've never really compounded success (or near success) well in the Premiership era. We had a good season last year and in terms of personnel brought in since, I think we've looked like we've consolidated and improved on that. We didn't do that after the Houllier, Rafa and Rodgers seasons of significant improvement.

I know there are "ifs" and "maybes" Ross, there are with every signing. It's easy to say he won't be a success, if you gauge that by us winning something significant, because the likelihood of that happening for any club who hasn't had recent success is marginal. We can all be right about it if we say any player we sign who doesn't win something, is a failure. Because it's probably 99% more likely. Will he improve us? Probably. Will it be enough to help us win something? Let's hope so eh.
 
It's for the clubs accountants to be concerned with, if a 75m fee is being sanctioned, we can afford it. The club were happy for the echo to push the £200m warchest in the summer narrative, now we are spending it.

And it's for Klopp to use the money wisely.
We don't have to do it just because can afford it. Everton's summer being the perfect example of that
 
And it's for Klopp to use the money wisely.
We don't have to do it just because can afford it. Everton's summer being the perfect example of that

Yeah but Everton bought about six number 9's. Anyone could see that was a fucking disaster.
 
The only disgusting aspect about this is having to hand that amount to money to Southampton, that grates much more than caring about us losing that much money. Just giving it over to them, after their bullshit in the summer, it's disgusting. There must follow some sort of revenge, or they have to be relegated, something to make it right. As it stands, we're dickheads.
 
In principle I have nothing against paying a lot of money in an attempt to fix a glaring weakness in the side, but I haven't seen enough of VVD to have confidence that he's the man to do so. I'm wary that Lovren was deemed 'the answer' to Carragher retiring and look how that's worked out. The fact Fonte has struggled since leaving Southampton is cause for some further doubt. VVD has to be not only good enough to adjust to a more exposed system but also go to become an elite CB that is regarded amongst the best in the world. If he does that then happy days. But that's what he will be judged against with the fee that we've paid. Good to decent isn't enough. He has to be world class.

I also hope there's enough money for a decent keeper and DM because those positions are equally deserving of investment.
 
If VVD and Keita fail, Klopp will be gone soon. If they pushes us on upwards (if Coutino not leaving) and win us the league title, Klopp will be the new messiah. I think it is all or nothing gamble. If the gamble is a failure, it will set LFC back another decade to challenge for the title as we would have depleted the financial reserves of the club?
 
I'm worried about the press and attention that will come from this, but if he hits the ground running then I think we have a class defender and leader at the back who could be there for 6 or 7 seasons.

It won't be long before one of City/United pays more for someone else and re-breaks the record.
 
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